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Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Ordain Women Movement, What are the Consequences?

A couple of weeks ago I was reading a blog article about the ordain women movement in the LDS church.  I wish I could remember where or I would put the link, but either in the article itself or in the comments there was a story of an investigator that was disturbed by the concept that women are not ordained to the Priesthood in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.  Either on her own accord or by encouragement of the missionaries she prayed about it, and had her own personal revelation that "it wouldn't work.".  I have been pondering that and wondering why "wouldn't it work?"  I have previously blogged about my opinion  but this time I want to discuss what I have learned in the reflection of this issue and the long term consequences in this mortal life and why "I don't think it will work".

For starters we must discuss the differences in the LDS church compared to other religions and other Christian religions in how our leadership rolls work.

We are given callings, although there are many religious scholars in the church we do not need to go to a School and get a degree in theology to become an ordained minister.  This is a crucial distinction between us and other churches.  We are called, and can be called regardless of education, career, and interests.  Although I have known Bishops that have degrees and specialties in the study of scripture, Hebrew, and other similar topics, they were not called because of this knowledge, they were called because God knew they had something specific do help strengthen the people under their jurisdiction.  As women in the Church this is so important to realize.  We have many, many opportunities to serve that in other religions you have to be formally ordained through a school of theology to do.  We can preach from the pulpit, we can pray in all our meetings, we can bear testimony, serve the sick and the needy, take care of children.  We can also be called to be part of presidencies, Relief Society, which is the largest women's organization in the World, Young Women's, and the Primary where we directly can shape and teach the youth of the church.  When a president of these organizations there is one on one counsel with the Bishop, participation in Ward Counsels, and on the Stake Level with the Stake President, all the way to the General Boards that work with the First Presidency and other leaders of the Church.  This is no small undertaking and I don't think as women of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints we don't appreciate near enough.  I know I didn't until I started to ponder, "Why would it not work".

As I was thinking about this issue and all the reasons why the ordain women "covet" the priesthood, and let me say some of them I have great compassion for, I was lead to think about the organization of the church as it is today.  Think about all the different groups we have to make the church run, and if we all did what we were asked to do, how well it would run?  Not just from the First Presidency but down to those that work in the nursery.  How would such a change affect this organization?  Some of those are connected to the superficial reasons why many of us as women do NOT want to have the Priesthood at this time.  We feel we are asked to do enough, that we are busy enough, not just as mother's but as members of the RS and our callings in Sunday School, Primary, and Young Women's organization.  We do not want the extra burden of potentially being called a Bishop of a Ward.  It is too overwhelming for most of us to think about.

That is still not why it wouldn't work, at least not the nitty gritty reasons.  It is getting close.  What would it mean if women were ordained to the Priesthood?  What would happen to the Elder's Quorum, The High Priest Group, Deacons, Teachers, Priests?  How would the organization of the Priesthood change?  What would happen to the Relief Society and how it now works.  Think about it for a moment?  Can you see what I am beginning to grasp?  If a woman is called to be Bishop, and Elder's Quorum, and Relief Society President, what happens to the men?  Will Relief Society even exist anymore?  If women are in charge of the Priesthood and Relief Society what value do the men have?  I know many of you would say, do women not have value in not being in those groups, all I can say is I'm trying to get you to see the big picture. 

This past Sunday we were talking about Joseph, and commenting on the wise counsel that men and women should never be alone together, carpools, appointments, that sort of thing.  I know my husband as executive secretary needs to be there when the Bishop has meetings with members of the opposite sex and with youth.  If he isn't there it is because someone else is there so even if alone in the office there is someone to be sure all is as well, and propriety is maintained, for everyone's sake.

If women can hold the priesthood what happens to our presidencies and what risks will be taken for potential sin?  Could we then have presidencies that are mixed?  A female bishop with male counselors, and mixed secretaries and clerks.  Same with the Elder's quorum.  What happens to the differing roles of the Elder's quorum president and the Relief Society President.  The lines of responsibility becomes blurred, and the necessity of one or the other is negated.  There is no doubt that women and men approach things differently, and we need that difference of opinion.

Next, what happens to the young men's and young women's organization.  I don't believe young men and young women are split for frivolous reasons, after all they spend Sunday School together.  It is because we need nurturing and teaching from role models of the same gender apart from each other.  I think this is necessary as part of our growth and development.  If women can be ordained what happens here?  Again, presidencies could be come mixed and at such impressionable ages, and an age where sexual desire and attraction grows I don't think it would be a good idea.  It is easy enough to pair off, but I could see it happening easier.

It goes on and on.  That doesn't mean that someday, women won't hold the Priesthood.  I know we will hold it when it is the most crucial and that is throughout eternity with our spouses.  The Priesthood is not complete without the man AND woman.  In mortality, I think our needs are different.  We are trying to learn how God works, and even how men and women work differently.  In doing so we understand each other better and even learn to work together better.

I am sure there will be women that will have differing opinions.  All I know is as I have pondered "why it wouldn't work", I understood this complex subject even more.  It isn't that God loves his daughters less, or that men have a greater work, it just in mortality, where Satan has such a hand hold in our lives, that this is designed as much for our protection as it is for our Spiritual well being.  As women we are taught that we can't do it all.  We have to rely on someone else to give our children blessings.  It can be hard as a woman to accept that there are things we "can't do".  We are in a time we are told we can do it all, but we can't.  God is teaching us that we need worthy male priesthood holders because without them we are also nothing, as they are nothing without us.

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